WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby 7eleven » 27 Nov 2016, 01:20

I'd go with 'I'm Older Now', but it's cool that everyone can choose for themselves.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby spicefreak » 27 Nov 2016, 02:07

mrssmith626 wrote:The second verse of the song gives it a whole religious overtone, I think. Some of my favorite lyrics on the album; they actually brought tears to my eyes the first time.

But I am a Christian, so might just be identifying with the lyrics in my own way.

I love this album, guys. This song especially.



I don't read it like that at all. The only reference to God I get is the literal lyric "if God's there let's speak." I think that very much comes from Moses climbing Mount Sinai and talking to God. Otherwise I feel the song is very much a 'journey' or 'overcoming' song.

Also Geri has never really made any reference to being religious or even believing in God has she? For someone so open about her life I would have thought it would have made some way into her books or songs if she was :shrug:

It's cool it means different things to different people though (:
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby mrssmith626 » 27 Nov 2016, 05:09

spicefreak wrote:
mrssmith626 wrote:The second verse of the song gives it a whole religious overtone, I think. Some of my favorite lyrics on the album; they actually brought tears to my eyes the first time.

But I am a Christian, so might just be identifying with the lyrics in my own way.

I love this album, guys. This song especially.



I don't read it like that at all. The only reference to God I get is the literal lyric "if God's there let's speak." I think that very much comes from Moses climbing Mount Sinai and talking to God. Otherwise I feel the song is very much a 'journey' or 'overcoming' song.

Also Geri has never really made any reference to being religious or even believing in God has she? For someone so open about her life I would have thought it would have made some way into her books or songs if she was :shrug:

It's cool it means different things to different people though (:


Geri was raised Catholic, right? I figured she was a theist, but Wikipedia says, "Later, she converted to Christianity after previously being an agnostic." And this is the article it uses as a reference: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 55160.html

Personally, I think this album has born-again Christian smeared all over it.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby DannyDirnt » 27 Nov 2016, 19:13

I like that title for the album, but if I had to choose another one it would definitely be Phenomenal Woman.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby spicefreak » 28 Nov 2016, 00:36

mrssmith626 wrote:
spicefreak wrote:
mrssmith626 wrote:The second verse of the song gives it a whole religious overtone, I think. Some of my favorite lyrics on the album; they actually brought tears to my eyes the first time.

But I am a Christian, so might just be identifying with the lyrics in my own way.

I love this album, guys. This song especially.



I don't read it like that at all. The only reference to God I get is the literal lyric "if God's there let's speak." I think that very much comes from Moses climbing Mount Sinai and talking to God. Otherwise I feel the song is very much a 'journey' or 'overcoming' song.

Also Geri has never really made any reference to being religious or even believing in God has she? For someone so open about her life I would have thought it would have made some way into her books or songs if she was :shrug:

It's cool it means different things to different people though (:


Geri was raised Catholic, right? I figured she was a theist, but Wikipedia says, "Later, she converted to Christianity after previously being an agnostic." And this is the article it uses as a reference: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 55160.html

Personally, I think this album has born-again Christian smeared all over it.



I don't hear that at all, it's so cool how music can resonate in different ways to different people.

To be fair I am an atheist so that is probably why I struggle to see a Christian vibe to it, the idea of it's being a journey or overcoming album does tie in with "born again Christian" I just don't personally hear it (:
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby The Spice Girls » 28 Nov 2016, 02:15

mrssmith626 wrote:
spicefreak wrote:
mrssmith626 wrote:The second verse of the song gives it a whole religious overtone, I think. Some of my favorite lyrics on the album; they actually brought tears to my eyes the first time.

But I am a Christian, so might just be identifying with the lyrics in my own way.

I love this album, guys. This song especially.



I don't read it like that at all. The only reference to God I get is the literal lyric "if God's there let's speak." I think that very much comes from Moses climbing Mount Sinai and talking to God. Otherwise I feel the song is very much a 'journey' or 'overcoming' song.

Also Geri has never really made any reference to being religious or even believing in God has she? For someone so open about her life I would have thought it would have made some way into her books or songs if she was :shrug:

It's cool it means different things to different people though (:


Geri was raised Catholic, right? I figured she was a theist, but Wikipedia says, "Later, she converted to Christianity after previously being an agnostic." And this is the article it uses as a reference: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 55160.html

Personally, I think this album has born-again Christian smeared all over it.


She was raised as a Jehova's witness. But we all know she had some Kaballah time in her life, too, around her SIYWGF era. Then she got married like a proper Christian if am not wrong? She's a mixture of many religions, lol.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby KingOfSpiceWorld » 28 Nov 2016, 02:37

mrssmith626 wrote:
spicefreak wrote:
mrssmith626 wrote:The second verse of the song gives it a whole religious overtone, I think. Some of my favorite lyrics on the album; they actually brought tears to my eyes the first time.

But I am a Christian, so might just be identifying with the lyrics in my own way.

I love this album, guys. This song especially.



I don't read it like that at all. The only reference to God I get is the literal lyric "if God's there let's speak." I think that very much comes from Moses climbing Mount Sinai and talking to God. Otherwise I feel the song is very much a 'journey' or 'overcoming' song.

Also Geri has never really made any reference to being religious or even believing in God has she? For someone so open about her life I would have thought it would have made some way into her books or songs if she was :shrug:

It's cool it means different things to different people though (:


Geri was raised Catholic, right? I figured she was a theist, but Wikipedia says, "Later, she converted to Christianity after previously being an agnostic." And this is the article it uses as a reference: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 55160.html

Personally, I think this album has born-again Christian smeared all over it.


Firstly, and please don't get me wrong, but you must be very sensitive to cry with this song...
Wasn't Geri raised a Jehovas witness. Somebody corrected me.

She's in Kabbalah now so no Christianity for her.
Personally I prefer not to know famous people's beliefs because it can only downgrade them for me.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby Ian » 28 Nov 2016, 17:44

spicefreak wrote:I love the title, it's so different. Apart from Passion she has always had quirky album titles.


I agree. Love and Light is a bit too 'simple' for me.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby Andreas » 28 Nov 2016, 18:25

Ian wrote:
spicefreak wrote:I love the title, it's so different. Apart from Passion she has always had quirky album titles.


I agree. Love and Light is a bit too 'simple' for me.

And so cliché it's sticky. She's better than that. Man on the Mountain is right up there with Schizophonic and Scream If You Wanna Go Faster.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby PoshInMaine » 28 Nov 2016, 18:30

I don't mind Man On The Mountain. It's quirky like her.

Otherwise I would have been down for Phenomenal Woman or Back In Business (song included or not).
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby Javi » 28 Nov 2016, 18:37

I love 'Man On The Mountain' as a title. Specially considering the whole record is about growing up, leaving fears behind, developing yourself as a person, finding a new direction, etc. Which is basically what the song MOTM is about.

It also fits the vibe and genre of the album, it being more folkish, country-like and having some western influences.

'Earned My Name', 'Climbing My Mountain' or 'Wet Flat Stone' would've also been nice metaphoric titles to what the album means to her at this moment.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby Ian » 30 Nov 2016, 13:47

Javi wrote:I love 'Man On The Mountain' as a title. Specially considering the whole record is about growing up, leaving fears behind, developing yourself as a person, finding a new direction, etc. Which is basically what the song MOTM is about.

It also fits the vibe and genre of the album, it being more folkish, country-like and having some western influences.

'Earned My Name', 'Climbing My Mountain' or 'Wet Flat Stone' would've also been nice metaphoric titles to what the album means to her at this moment.


Somehow I don't think : Geri Halliwell - Wet Flat Stone would make for a good title. You can imagine the headlines "wet and flat about sums her vocals up"
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby KingOfSpiceWorld » 02 Dec 2016, 01:33

If anything, it should have been Woman on the mountain and the lyrics should have been about a wise old woman. Girl power!

Plus I hate that old guys voice. The song is funny but his voice brings in mind a sort of a lumberjack seventies porn star person and spoils the whole thing...
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby The Spice Girls » 02 Dec 2016, 02:23

/\ What are you talking about, that voice is everything!
That guy has amazing voice and I wish the album was released so I could check whose voice is this!
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby rusty_nail » 02 Dec 2016, 05:33

I'll admit...the first time I heard the song, the guy's voice was really jarring for me. Kinda a....whaaaaat...moment. But. I've gotten used to it. I like the voice now. In fact, Man on the Mountain's emerged as my favorite of the recent leaks. Mind you, I think Love and Light would be a better single if a release were plausible. But. Man on the Mountain's been stuck in my head for days. I love the mix of electronic and guitary sounds.

And, yes, I prefer Man on the Mountain as the album title too. As a title, I think it sums up the direction of the album best. Phenomenal Woman, for me, sounds like a brasher, bolder album...while I'm Older Now and Humanity sound like they belong to a more somber album.

And...as can be seen from the discussions above...the song/title can be interpreted in different ways by the listener.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby fernandomachado » 08 Dec 2016, 16:10

I believe it's a spiritual thing - like climbing your own mountain (overcoming your personal challenges) to finally find what the man standing there (your enlightened consciousness) has to say.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby PopIsHot » 21 Dec 2016, 13:30

I don't like the album title either.

Phenomenal Woman would be more fitting.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby PeruvianSpice » 21 Dec 2016, 17:47

I think the man's voice might be Eliot...

And I would love the song even more if it wasn't for the "Step by step" line which reminds me so much (Even in melody) to "Strength Of A Woman"...
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Postby mrssmith626 » 08 Jan 2017, 05:06

PeruvianSpice wrote:I think the man's voice might be Eliot...

And I would love the song even more if it wasn't for the "Step by step" line which reminds me so much (Even in melody) to "Strength Of A Woman"...


It is extremely similar.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby PoshInMaine » 12 Jan 2017, 15:42

fernandomachado wrote:I believe it's a spiritual thing - like climbing your own mountain (overcoming your personal challenges) to finally find what the man standing there (your enlightened consciousness) has to say.


This is what I was thinking. I was listening to it this morning and noticed a running theme with the songs were often about becoming a better person, seeing the good in others, lifting people up, believing in miracles, loving one another, etc. Man On The Mountain as a song is, to me, about a journey to enlightenment and I think the "Man" on the Mountain represents Enlightenment and climbing the mountain is the Journey to get there. So there is a literal song and accompanying songs that reflect that.

It made me love the title. So fitting and really encompasses the album, plus its very Geri.
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby Fenrik » 12 Jan 2017, 20:31

About the male voice in MOTM. To me it sounds just like Geri herself, only of course, altered vocals. lol!
At least "he" sings in the same way as she does....
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Re: WHY MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN??

Postby -Raul- » 12 Jan 2017, 20:56

It is Geri. Alter the voice with some audio tool and you can clearly hear it's her. Marcel should do it haha

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